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Is there a movement you feel part of?

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by fucktherave

The reasoning for me asking this is really based in watching american hardcore last night (finally managed to find it) and thinking that theres nothing even close to that for me and my friends.

So is there anything that you could draw parallels with in terms of a youth movement related to music that people feel part of? or is it a case of the movements in the past only being emphasised and stuff after the event?

fucktherave | 12 May '08, 16:19 | Send note | Report this | Reply

MrScagdenCore

I am the founding and only member of my scene.


electroclash


:D

IDCHOPPERSCORE = all songs about chainsaws.


IDKFACORE

all teh songs are about the 9 weapons available in Doom 2


IDCLIP-core

there are no boundaries!


:D


LEVEL32GROSSE/10


Geograph-rock

'Yeah, but you can't exactly call him Geograph!'

'Okay, well he's Geograph-influenced!'

'Only his clean guitar parts!'

'Yeah but it's still quite Geograph!'

'Yeah but, if anything, he's more like Bloc Party!'

'No, he's more Geograph than Bloc Party!'


Not really.

Due to the ease with which we can access music these days and the way in which it can be communicated to us so easily via different types of media, I don't think that people are so much part of a single 'scene' as such.

It's much more common these days that a music-lover is into hardcore, hip-hop, dance and indie because we hear about all these different genres from websites like this one, TV channels and other music publications.

It's obvious that some individuals are much more part of a particular scene or movement than others, but, on the whole there isn't really the need for something like the American hardcore movment these days because, to be honest, 'alternative' as a reaction to the mainstream doesn't really exist anymore.


But that scene seemed like so much fun

and surely theres always a mainstream and as a result a reaction? Why havent people adapted to how things are now and then just created a reactionary movement, just one that isnt like the other ones


Not really

I think the closest was the 'no scene' thing around Fleet 2002, which we had in fact completely made-up ourselves.


My band

Play gigs with a few other bands we are friends with quite alot. It could be a scene had we all got similar styles, but sadly we are all completely different but it's prob more interesting that way.

i remember NMe trying to start that new acoustic movement a few years ago and it fell on it's face.


Haha, surely the worst idea ever!

Acoustic, bleurgh.

'The scene with no name' was quite funny too. Ace bands though.


was that the

Ikara Colt, 80s matchbox b-line disaster thing?


that's the point

though isn't it? - back to what alaxander said...


I ended up feeling at home in the punk/anarcho crowd

There was no ageism going on, which suited us well (the youngest member in the band was 17, the oldest was 52), the bands we played with had a great attitude towards music, and people never desperately tried to pigeonhole us. I miss those days :-(


I know some people who live and breath

minimal techno run a club night and go all over the shop going to hear it and party. So I guess that is some kinda scene right there.


i guess i know the same with drum 'n' bass

but that's not the sort of response i expect in this thread


I guess so

I can't think of any other scens mind. Dance music has always been pretty tight knit.


serious response that makes me sound like a twat

i do really think of myself as an indie kid. the whole culture of music/films/clothes etc etc etc really helped me get over being a lonely, depressed idiot when i was about 14/15, so i trained myself to turn my toes in and listened to belle & sebastian a lot.

i like loads of other music, but the whole movement and its values and ethos is really important to me


^EMO^


^^^

Though not so much any more because I'm fast becoming an irrelevant late 20-something.

About 10 years ago I was all about this though. Sounds tacky, but If You're Feeling Sinister was a life-changing event for me.


serious response!

I agree with what you're saying, that there's nothing around at the moment even remotely as tight-knit and active as the hardcore scene was back then (I've not seen the film but I get the same impression from reading Our Band Could Be Your Life).

BUT, when I go to relatively small gigs in Oxford, talk to people round here about music, play gigs in tiny little venues, etc, you still do get a feeling of being part of something, even if it's not a 'movement' or something which is going to change anyone's life. And that's quite nice.


yeah i guess so

i mean theres a 'hardcore scene' of sorts in norwich but its limited to 200 people if that and its good but nothing to really get excited about. i guess i just wish i lived in LA or DC in the 1980s


No one should ever wish they lived in the 80s.

I'd rather live in ANY other decade of the 20th century than the 80s/.


some of us

don't have to wish.


there is a comunity kinda vibe

in most areas I would think. I know if I go out in York to indie stuff I will genraly see the same people each time, so a comunity kinda grows around that.


I used to be a mod

but that probably had something to do with te fact that at the time no one else was. I was wearing skinny trousers in 2000! I had to get them tailored! Happy Days...

Now I'm Swingdie/Nu-kroon


No.

Drainpipe jeans have been available from Topman since about 2003/4, so you could have easily cheated.

I get my trousers taken in by a local tailor, but I'm not a swingdie limey!


yeah well i got them taken in in 2002

so suck on those apples


You dint.

You'd have only been about 12 so you lose.


Swingdie.

Urgh. Why not just Swing or Indie? :(


I was being ironic...

Brainlove coined 'swingdie' (for a laugh) and The Times said we were 'nu croon'. Some people are swingdie... GET OVER IT!


Indie and swing should never even look at eachother

One's based on beat and melody and one's based (at the moment) on being loud and fast.

SWINGDIE LOSES.


Not that fast.

Only Jet can get away with that.

And that ain't swingdie, dude; that's ROCK AND ROLL.


i think you're thinking of

swingcore


Nonsense.

swing is essential in anything that has a jazz/soul/RnB influence. 'Swing' is more than just a genre. My vocals always swing. It's in the phrasing. That's what makes them sound different. Listen to 'So, you Think You Can Dance?' - it's indie but it swings!

Anyway, there is much more to indie than what epitomises current leanings. There were plenty of '80s indie pop groups that were influenced by jazz and swing grooves.


LOLcore


LOLcore = Bands people make fun of on the internet.

and by "the internet", I generally mean a significant amount of people on DiS, Pitchfork and snobby music blogs.

(Not saying DiS is snobby, it's pretty reasonable)


i thought it was

Germlin/Gay Against You type stuff.


and by "significant"...

I mean less than 200.


The bowel movement

Hi-o!


I hereby crown you

King of the Zinger.


Hare Krishna


Probably, but it doesn't really have a name.

Its basically a bunch of people aged between about 18 and 26 that like dancing to 50s and 60s tunes, and that travel around everywhere to do so.

I do tend to stray to the r&b rooms where the mods all go, but I'm not a mod. I'm not really an anything. Just a lover of quality.


swingdie?


:D


Come to think of it,

it reeks of John Brianlove.


This dear beaut is often spotted

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=37423242

she's far too lovely to be involved in any of your EVIL mixture scenes. Now leave me and her to enjoy our scene. Which isn't swingdie.


her profile picture is a bit scary

she looks nicer in the other one. under music she has listed swingdie though im afraid


She's stunning in real life.

She looks like what Dusty Springfield SHOULD have looked like. She kept dancing in the garage room though, and they pretty much just had 'Pushing Too Hard' by The Seeds on repeat.

Also: haha :D


No.

I tried to woo her when she was in the place I was but I'm pretty sure she's about 5 years older than me.

AND FOREIGN.

Possibly.

But Good foreign.


age is but a number

im trying to think of a similar catchy thing for where shes from, but cant think of one, so STOP BEING A MASSIVE RACIST :p


How about

"nationality is but a place where your parents got biz-zay"?

Not quite as catchy, is it? Hmmm...


I decided the other day,

that The Cure were crap and that the Stone Roses were better.


.


Soz.

I like their singles, but even the singles collection I have is dreadful after liek track 8.


im guessing you like the poppier stuff?

listen to the early albums (ihave boys dont cry on vinyl which is american) youll like that


Nu-Metal

I heard that Nu-Metal was scene and it might still be thriving I always see kids in black hoodies and beardy blokes with long shorts on and loadsa chains.


...

Those who make the mistake of visiting the Krazyhouse in Liverpool could testify to a still-thriving nu-metal scene going strong between its ground and upper floors...it's like a timewarp in there - disturbed, Bizkit, 'Park, 'Knot' 'Engage, 'Roach - all the greats playing in unaalterable sequence. Oh and Kid Rock too


hehe

Nu-Mental


Dubstep.

Though i'm not a 'Youth' but then neither are the followers, DJ's producers and Rave attendee's...that i know and meet.


I had a movement this morning

that I certainly felt part of


we were tagged NuGaze repeatedly

and we changed our sound to get away from it, fucking disgusting contrived NME construct. We're now waiting to be tagged the new wave of new wave of new wave...


I was pleased with myself...

when I came up with NuGaze scene name. But then realised NME and already done it. Then realised it's actually crap. And ergo so was I.


we were using it as a joke as well!

about two years before the NME appropriated it, very depressing...


did you

find a stream of it online?

i think i did.


grnunge


glunge


Oh!

Sorry.


i want to get that word in the dictionary now.

n. (derogatory) 1. resembling facially or pertaining to a gooey clunge 2. an avid follower of glunge music and lifestyle.

e.g. hop it you glunge!


Kill me before the nu-glunge

revival


i'd rather we had

post-glunge


Did you

find a free stream of it online?


yeah googlevideo has one

its under AH documentary i think but it comes up if you type in american hardcore i think on google. downloaded it for safe keeping