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Reading/Leeds: Main Stage

raz with my chemical romance Funeral For A Friend (Reading, Sunday) have spent quite a long time in LA. This would explain as to how they've become festival tent-rats to outdoor behemoths. Possibly. There's more than a hint of studied yank alt-rock schtick to their schtick. It's all about picking the people up in the moshpit and mentioning their new single. But dammit, it's fun - even ignoring the fact that their sophomore LP is merely grist to the lumpen mill of Emo circa '05. Still, there's the joys of 'Escape Artists Never Die' which marks them out as a main stage band with an anthem; there's actually surprisingly few of those about on the Sunday big stage.

Queens of the Stone Age (Leeds, Friday) play 'Regular John', which was a result 'cause much of the new material sounds flat, weak and distinctly... Carling-like. That said, 'Little Sister' damn near prompted a sing-along among the more gnarly sections of the crowd. At the end of the day though, this set was not by a band, this was a group of session musicians. Where's the soul, brothers? Leave it at Nick's house?

Alkaline Trio (Leeds, Friday) are hampered by windy sound. The doom punks fail to rock out as much as they ought to do; a band who clearly need the walls of a sweaty venue to make sense, Alkaline Trio are a six-legged cliché of faux-goth riffs and pop-punk conventions. Move along, emo-kids – nothing to see here.

The inspired (although almost no-brainer) choice of Iron Maiden (Leeds, Friday) demonstrate how they were doing things twenty years before everybody else, Maiden play the first four albums for the newbies. Maiden were always going to be the massive draw for this stage, but the sheer unabashed theatrics and revolving backdrop wonderment makes for one of the most entertaining acts of the entire festival. Bruce Dickinson knows what they are; he's proud to be the leader of a band who can rock and still bring joy, whose onstage demeanour implies pantomime rather than boring rock star; an almost guilty pleasure to be revered by all.

Theatrically speaking, some bands are aware of their status and play off it in a way that makes them immensely likeable (see above). Foo Fighters (Leeds, Sunday), however, seem to think that they still are a serious rock band. Chugging through just over an hour of repetitive grunge, Dave Grohl is having the time of his life and theoretically so should we be. The problem is, five years ago the Foos still appeared relevant but it really is hard to escape their decline into a Supergrass-like role, only making sense in that festival environment and not even pulling that off with a great deal of aplomb.

Biffy Clyro stand once again on a Main Stage and at times look lost. The wind is always an enemy for a band who generally thrive in the sweaty atmospheres of indoor venues and it leaves us feeling mildly unfulfilled. Today doesn't feel right for Biffy; they should be ramming the Radio 1 stage as the sun is going down.

Incubus (Leeds, Friday) release one duff album and you think they've stumbled down the MOR path. WRONG! They play plenty from SCIENCE and it sounds as funky as ever, as tight as ever and makes their more recently recorded material slightly more forgivable.

Marilyn Manson (Leeds, Friday) plays 'The Dope Show' and we dance. A bit. The mega-expensive multi-screened backdrop to his stage set seems to flash "DRUGS!" at the Disposable Teens in the crowd throughout. What a cantankerous glam-rock-gone-'dustrial deity this Manson is; he'd be utterly fucking deplorable if it weren't for the tunes which, mostly, rock in a good ol' fashioned way - a clear highlight of Friday's Main Stage performers by a flamethrower's blast range and a true entertainer in nearly every way.

Entertainment was clearly high on Mean Fiddler's list this year as Goldie Lookin' Chain's (Leeds, Saturday) brilliantly puerile wake-up material led to various members of the DiS camp singing "fuck you Alicia Keys" throughout the rest of the weekend – the perfect comedy hangover cure.

Dinosaur Jr. (Leeds, Sunday) bash out 'Little Fury Things' and for five minutes 1987 comes to the 21st Century. It's good, but not quite right.

It's fair to say that we didn't really watch Iggy and The Stooges (Leeds, Friday) as such; rather, we pricked our ears in their direction while supping on a paper cup of froth (the staff had the gall to call it a "beer"). They do – or is it "he does"? – 'I Wanna Be Your Dog' and for a few minutes everything in Leeds is retro-punkin' genius. Then, it's back to the cup of fizzy pop dressed up as booze...

It would, of course, be foolish not to mention this little band called the Pixies (Leeds, Saturday). We stood with no preconceptions, but the seemingly half-hearted, by-the-book retellings of the band's 'hits' were, for the time spent watching it, grossly disappointing. A warm crowd reaction however is easy when a band playing song after song that everybody knows - ask the Foo Fighters - but when they're played what can only be construed as a lack of passion it does feel slightly empty. Disappointing, yes, but not devoid of worth.

Leeds: Colin Roberts, Michael Diver, Raziq Rauf, Lianne Steinberg
Reading: Gareth Dobson



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    i can't believe how entirely wrong you are about the pixies.

    its rather funny really.

    hahah iron maiden.
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    hahahahaahahahahha lack of passion. i missed that bit. hahahahh.

    i've shitted better reviews
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    I LOVE RAZ.
    And I found the Pixies totally dull.
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      someone's taking the piss here
      it's you innit
      someone
      FACE
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      I LOVE the pixies, but i found their set to be really quite dull.
      Maybe it's because Kim Deal looks like a maths teacher, or maybe it's because they really are just doing the reforming for a quick bit of cash thing...
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        Both the Pixies and the Maiden were shite, Frank Black looks like my obese grandad playing nostalgic music with a serious lack of feeling. Three songs into their set and a group of us were bored rigid, you could tell that the majority of the crowd felt the same as the que to get out of the festival was immense.
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    I heard a girl broke their neck during QOTSA at Reading, is this true?

    Sounds brutal...
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    This is really funny, Kim Deal could twat me one in the face and i'd love it. Seeing the pixies at leeds was the first time id heard any of their songs, and i loved every minute of it, no way were they dull. You've also miraculously managed to focus on the bands that are crap anyway and just tell us they weren't that good. well duh.

    i notice on Dis that some people, empty on the inside, feel the need to most their dislike of bands and not say anything good. well why bother posting at all? its stupid, bloody idiots. No constructive point to them at all, so why?

    hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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      It's a review. A review which was contributed to by about six scribes and cobbled together over a few days by myself.

      The fact of the matter is, I didn't see the fucking Pixies and from what the two people who I was working with and those I spoke to said, I'm glad I was in the Cabaret Tent experiencing the most wonderful thing in like, forever.

      What you're saying is that we should only review bands if we are going to do it in a positive fashion? That's just fucking idiocy and I sincerely hope you would care to elaborate on it slightly.
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    good call on biffy clyro they're pants
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    no no no, journalists are free to post what they think about things when they experince them for the first time..i was just commenting on people who post unconstructive negativity when theres no point.

    I also thought arcade fire were a bit boring, but thats me and everyone is everyone. just sayin thats all.
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      i've been so uncharmed by arcade fire for the past few months but they really were something else at reading, and quite reversed my opinion.
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    I saw incubus at Reading, I love that band but I thought they were incredibly shit.
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      I didn't bother. Hearing them from yellow camp was bad enough.
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    http://www.leedsmusicscene.net/article/4169/
    WHORE
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      Unless I blinked really slowly or something, I really don't think The Stooges played Lust For Life. Did *anyone* with plans to review the weekend actually see this band?
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    but incubus at leeds played basically all new stuff from what i remember ... not much science at all .. in fact they were dull (not as bad as last time they played the festival though
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    No offence intended, people, but you royally screwed up by missing The Stooges. Fuck beer, really...fuck it...what the hell were you doing??? By a fairly long way they were the best band of the festival on the main stage, since they were the only one who far exceeded all expectations. Marilyn sang really badly, the Foos were competent, if limp, and GLC drew a bigger crowd in their second-on slot on the Leeds main stage than the headliners. Why were they so far down?? and Why were The Pixies and Wedding Present so high up the bill... it's all well and good for old NME jocks to get nostalgic, but the WP had about 300 people bothering to stand up when GLC (who'd been on before them had 100 times that.). The Pixies were again very competent, but the fire wasn't there.

    Seriously. You've fucked up missing The Stooges. They were to Leeds what The Who were to Live 8... jumping right out of the page!

    Dear dear.
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      i was disappointed by the stooges. granted, i was smarting a bit from the fact that they were onstage fucking EARLY and therefore i missed tv eye and i wanna be your dog, but still... i watched them feeling somewhat dispassionate, when they'd been one of the main draws for me. mainstage sound/impersonal atmosphere, i don't know... didn't work for me.
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        I was at Leeds, so I don't know what Reading was like. I would say that the general atmosphere for ALL the bands at th main stage at Leeds was a bit flat. Talked to a lot of people about it. Even the bands who went down well only seemed to have half the audience actually clapping etc. It was almost as if most people were at the festival just to get pissed and go camping and for the whole social, rather than to watch music. The Foos closed the Festival reliably, but they simply don't have the same kind of showmanship as Green Day last year. I also wonder whether they see themselves rather differently to the way most of their fans see them...i.e. as a 'serious' more muso band, not a poppy punky rock outfit.

        Generally speaking I felt there weren't any really dynamic bands, building crescendos, epic songs kind of thing... the sort of songs exemplified by the Pulp song, 'Sunrise' work so well in a Festival, but last weekend the bands were mostly of the kind who play short choppy numbers, or simple pop songs in the case of the indie guitar bands. Yes, Maiden do do long drawn out instrumental jams, but I kind of wished they'd played 'The Ryme Of The Ancient Mariner', and covered songs from the first five albums rather than the first four. GLC were great because they were funny and hi-energy like the Beastie Boys.
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      "They were to Leeds what The Who were to Live 8"

      You mean absolute tiresome bores who drew out keyboard solos for two whole songs and really looked like they didn't want to be there?

      Sounds excellent fun.
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    Jesus, what a negative review sounds like you had a terrible time! It seems the festival was wasted on you grumpy, miserable people..
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    I know that in terms of cool etc, the foo fighters may have had their day, but to be honest they were great at reading, they made me smile like a goon for a good hour, despite freezing my ass off.
    Yes they 'chugged' through the same old same old, but to be honest if they pulled a Radiohead and came out with an electronica album you'd all get on your indie high horses and pussy whip them to oblivion.
    Just let your lank hair and (too much time in front of a computer) pale skin relax for an hour or so and enjoy the foo fighters for what they are rather than over pretentious-ising everything.
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      truth
      they're the best festival closers in the world at the moment in my honest opinion
      sadly i had to leave leeds on sunday morning to do stuff
      hence the lack of glowing review on this here page
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    what an utterly shizzle review, and what is he on about biffy, they are one of the best bands of the minute, and so what if they look like tramps?
    bad bad review, 'mon the biffy


    dave
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    oh wait i got another, the reviewer is a cunt :)
    big cunt, not the good type either, the bad type that you cant eat. He is talking out his arse, biffy clyro or the foo fighters are not grunge!!!
    are iron maiden the only band he likes in the world?? this bloke really should get his act together 'cause he is a total fuck head of a reviewer, maybe one of the worst ever, i could do better, with no hands, or eyes, or head, to be honest a 1 year old girl with mental problems could have done better, a dog that shat a piece of better would have been a more accurate review, twat.

    lots of love
    dave
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    oh wait i got another, the reviewer is a cunt :)
    big cunt, not the good type either, the bad type that you cant eat. He is talking out his arse, biffy clyro or the foo fighters are not grunge!!!
    are iron maiden the only band he likes in the world?? this bloke really should get his act together 'cause he is a total fuck head of a reviewer, maybe one of the worst ever, i could do better, with no hands, or eyes, or head, to be honest a 1 year old girl with mental problems could have done better, a dog that shat a piece of better would have been a more accurate review, twat.

    lots of love
    dave
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    a blind dog with no arse could shit a better review.
    a one year old girl with learning difficulties could do better.
    my dead grandmother could do better.
    an aoe could do a better review.
    a stone could do better.
    i could do a better review in a quarter of a second, some would say it would be jus a loud yelp, they would be correct becuase frankly this review is fuckin abysmal, the reviewer is a cunt.
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    Sorry, but that review is dreadful. Since writing what follows, I've learned that it's actually a composite from many reviewers. Either way I still think my original thoughts are valid.

    It's a case of a reviewer who is clearly biased to a particular genre being given a more varied event to review.

    1) Nothing but praise for Iron Maiden. 20 years ahead of their anyone else? Metalhead with delusions of superiority there, I believe.

    2) Marilyn Manson being lauded for having flamethrowers and "putting on a show". It's about the music firstly mate. Manson has long been playing to the controversy crowd. This reviewer seems unaware of his utter falseness.

    3) GLC. Funny for 5 minutes. And those 5 minutes happened last year. You cannot defend a "band" whose purpose is one-dimensional and who carry no musical creativity

    4) The FFAF critism could've been lifted straight out of any article that blatantly hates them. It's cliched to the extreme, and I hate reading the same accusations against a band.

    5) Foo Fighters "think they're a serious rock band"? Sorry, did I miss the point when they went comedy? And they haven't sounded grunge since '95. The reviewer clearly needs his genres testing.

    6) Another bout of genre-testing needed for the Biffy section. Grunge? Blackened Sky had echos of grunge, but since, I've heard very little of the sort from them. Just bizarre. And a nice image attack with Simon's beard. How very grown up and un NME of you

    7) Pixies. I have rarely seen a review so dressed-up "I actually hate this band but have to pretend I'm not biased". It's just bad journalism. Don't like it? Say so. Tell your freakin' editor you're too biased to give a proper review!

    8) Dinosaur Jr..... you've written nothing. You clearly have no idea, save the press release, who they are.

    Basically, this is the kind of crap I expect from the NME. Anyone remember the review they had of Jetplane Landing's Courage/Danger single? A complete attack on the style of music, only backed up by buzz-words and comparisons to bands they think are cool. This review is less extreme in it's buzz-wording, but just the same for bad journalism.

    The man clearly knows what he likes, and what he hates. What he's indifferent to, he lifts basic opinions (the FFAF Americanisation, for example) from others. It's not well written and it comes across as being incredibly biased against certain styles of music.

    Bands playing what he calls "grunge" missing the boat, then praising (I have nothing against Maiden) Maiden's heavy metal? How long ago did they do what they did mate?

    It's a horrible trend or reviewers being given things to review that are clearly inappropriate for their tastes.
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    i agree, this review was bad.. saw QOTSA at T in the park and thought they fucking rocked, even though everyone fucked off to see the shitty kaisers. Dissin' the pixies? Wtf? Saw them play T on the fringe and it was amazing, somehow they've remained incredibly significant, after touring for over a year without any new material even being released. And no love for Biffy? "missed their boat"... were they ever meant to hit the big time...?? I doubt that anyone really cares about that to be honest, I'm happy to see them playing the good old barrowlands every year for as long as i live..

    so there...
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      The Queens review is fecking silly. Natasha and Alain have worked and known Queens for years. Get over the fucking Nick thing already. Regular John = First album which had no Nick = Shush.
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    seriously. biffy. dated grunge. are you fucking swatched? Biffy are as you rightly said adored by many, and that is in big part to there unique, bold, unashamedly invintive music.
    Find me another band in todays musical climate that compare, who have plugged away and are getting the recognition they deserve, nto to be dissed by some titwank going clippety-clop down the street on his high horse of reviewing tripe.
    Dated. Maiden.
    good shout on the pixies tho.
    x
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    Can anyone post credits for who wrote each part?

    Specifically, who wrote the Biffy section and the Pixies section?

    Will anyone own up?
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    hmm not a well thought out review! 1stly get ur facts straight - QOTSA played Leeds Saturday not Friday and Biffy played Leeds Sunday not Friday.I was at Leeds.

    Maybe this doesnt matter too much but i have to take issue with u saying Biffy "missed their boat" . Its sailing at top speed with the wind right behind it i tell thee! I have a strong feeling that the thousands that loved their set will buy their next album en masse and Biffy will continue to both be awesome and sell even more records.
    #Mon the Biffy! #

    And to say QOTSA are souless + include session players(they DONT!) - well u must have watched different band to the one that blew me away with passion,intensity and good honest rock n roll.They even had New Model Army's road crew - sweet.

    And the Pixies were just mind blowingly good.

    Peace out.
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      YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE STOOGES! ARRRRRGH!!!! WHAT THE FUCK?!
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        Particularly if you did have 6 different reviewers there- what the fuck were they all doing while the Stooges were on?
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    It seems to me that everyone hates this review based on the fact that they disagree with the opinions expressed.

    Which is quite stupid really.

    Oh and I did enjoy some stuff on the Main Stage, but then most of this review wasn't my work, I merely composited it from an array of opinions in an attempt to build a balanced view of the stage/festival.
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      I don't hate the review but dude, how can you watch derivative shite like Biffy Clyro and Incubus and then miss The Stooges?!
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    Sorry guys, DiS is usually sound for reviews but this years Carling coverage is a shambles. Both in content and opinion.
    The only well written piece was the Saul Williams-YMSS piece.
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    This is fucking stupid. I saw the Pixies and they blew my mind - except I've been busy this week and haven't written a review to contribute to this. Didn't see Biffy as I went to Reading on the Sunday and Leeds the other two days, I can't believe this.
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    'You' is a reference to the collective staff of DiS...surely at least one of you guys watched the Stooges properly? And if not, why bother including a 'review' that basically says 'I'd prefer to drink an over-priced pint of rat's piss than watch one of the most important and influential bands of the last 35 years'? Just an observation...
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    It's a total mockery of what this website was about.

    Why have people who actively hate bands and are vocal about it, review them? What's the point?
    Presumably the goal is to try and dissuade people from checking out a band...?
    So why not put someone with an ounce of positivity on it, and try and embrace it in a supportive manner?

    Honestly, some of these people are going to undo everything that Sean et al put together, if this site descends any more into sarky-NME-esque hell.

    The fact that the only slightly well written part was about the bands with close ties to the journalist (the YMSS/Saul Williams) who then gets slap-happy about other bands that he doesn't really seem to understand (Biffy)... It's depressing, and says it all about how much his 'opinion' should matter to others...
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      I don't "understand" Biffy?

      I didn't write the fucking Biffy piece for the very reasons you point out. I do wish you'd actually note that this is a joint effort between six people.

      Close ties about that review? What are you barking on about?
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    I remember:
    Iggy banging out the Stooges punk numbers while flipping round the stage like Zebedee with his trousers halfway down his arse, the start of Number Of The Beast, with Bruce Dickinson silhouetted in a red followspot, like the beginning of a James Bond film, and the way he's such an ordinary bloke when he talks to the audience, Incubus doing Megalomaniac, and Marilyn doing Mobscene, Josh Homme putting me right off him with his uber macho egotistical patter, the Foos taking themselves too seriously, GLC for making me piss myself, The Wedding Present for being mediocre and making me wonder why the hell they are accorded 'legendary' status, the Dropkick Murphys for being my least favourite band ever... the Pogues without the charm (and I can't STAND the Pogues), too many bands thinking that shouting f**k a lot between songs makes you a showman. Gutted that I couldn't see Bloc Party or Kasabian, who were both supposed to have been brilliant.
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    Who is that in the picture with Raz?
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      Mike Diver
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    I miss peter white.
    • Re: Reading/Leeds: Main Stage

      peter what?
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    "Incubus (Leeds, Friday) release one duff album and you think they've stumbled down the MOR path. WRONG! They play plenty from SCIENCE and it sounds as funky as ever, as tight as ever and makes their more recently recorded material slightly more forgivable."

    Well ... it was all new material and a prince cover to finish things up ... oldest song they played was "nowhere fast" from Make Yourself ...

    Not that im complaining ... the new stuff, as a guitarist, is lovely to play along to ... mike knows just how to work the fretboard.