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Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

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by Adie Nunn

It’s been less than two years since John Harris’ most excellent ‘The Last Party’ documented a certain period in music, roughly 1993-97, when British bands decided to give a jolly good kick in the teeth of grunge. For a while, it looked like we might take over the world. Of course this never happened and bands like Elastica were too caught up in their world of healthy advances and unhealthy addictions, imploding after two albums before their potential was fully realised. Sound familiar?

With worryingly increasing frequency, the word ‘Britpop’ has been spotted again in the music press and the broadsheets. More often than not it’s thrown at a certain Leeds combo calling themselves Kaiser Chiefs. They are, however, not alone. What’s going on now and has been since the break between The Strokes’ ‘Is This It?’ and whatever their second album was called is far more scary.

We are experiencing some kind of weird Britpop-meets-New Wave Of New Wave hybrid. The Camden Crawl is back. S*M*A*S*H and Silver Sun are back. And round the country there are hundreds of little These Animal Mens popping up like The Paddingtons and The Others. Why, only a week ago DiS was idly flicking through some publication or other and we chanced upon somebody saying the latter band’s ’This Is For The Poor’ anthem was the new ‘Common People’ (Pulp, 1995). There are similarities, for sure, but on ‘Common People’, Jarvis Cocker really didn’t want to be common. ‘Common People’ knew there was nothing to be particularly proud of if you live in a slum; like the mighty Graham Coxon shyly uttered on Frank Skinner’s chat show last year when quizzed about their days studying at Goldsmiths, “there’s nothing glamorous about being thrown out of a squat in New Cross.” ‘This Is For The Poor’ celebrates being poor, which is surely nothing to be celebrated. ‘This Is For The Poor’ is the anti-‘Common People’.

The vast majority of the original ‘90s Britpoppers, at least when they started, wanted to be The Smiths. Most obviously, these were Echobelly, Shed 7, Marion, Suede and Gene. These days bands STILL want to be The Smiths (The Killers aren’t British but with their Shed 7-with-keyboards style, they may as well be), but the influence of the last 10 years is too obvious to ignore. DiS thought it best to provide a cut-out-and-keep guide to 15 current bands, which is by no means exhaustive. If you DO need to cut it out we advise printing it off rather than taking a pair of scissors to your monitor. If you do, however, prefer the latter method, at least unplug it first and earth yourself. Safety first at home, children.

GOOD AND BAD BRITPOP, 2005 STYLE

1. Art Brut
Expected to be no more than a one-hit-novelty, ’Formed A Band’ almost made them the new Me Me Me. But we have ‘clever’ lyrics, the tendency to shout a lot, drunkenness, a sense of heritage which is very, very English (apart from the two Germans. Erm) – all you need to do is replace the fans chanting “top of the pops” with “you fat bastard” and you have the new Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine.

2. British Sea Power
Misunderstood by many but worshipped by others, they play music which is dark and sometimes unsettling with the shadow of ‘80s indie/C86 ever present. Their more stroppy, po-faced nature shoves them in the direction of The Auteurs.

3. The Departure
Probably would’ve sold their grannies and done anything the A&R men suggested had they not been signed within 28 seconds of forming, few of 2004’s newcomers looked as desperate as the bunch of haircuts here parading as a band. These opportunists look like they’d hump any musical bandwagon going and as much as they’d like to be The Chameleons, they are really the new Thurman.

4. Franz Ferdinand
A little arty, a little on the wrong side of the usual music industry cut-off age of 25, Alex Kapranos has become something of a skinny pin-up. The band have already crossed over into the teen market thanks to mammoth foot-stomping hit ‘Take Me Out’. If their debut album was ‘Different Class’ then the next album will be the ‘misundertood’ one. Or it may sell fuckloads. Whatever. Helped by the fact they absolutely butchered ‘Mis-shapes’ in an early radio session, it may not surprise you to learn that Franz Ferdinand are really Pulp.

5. Help She Can’t Swim
Screeching girl vocals over something lovingly shambolic and tuneful; not quite riot grrl but quite a lotta Sonic Youth, HSCS are loved by a certain DIY in-crowd (we don’t mean grouting) and destined to sell very few records. They are Bis.

6. Kaiser Chiefs
Britpop personified, minus the class-A excess and hatred of America. Kaiser Chiefs have the old-skool dress sense and, most importantly, the tunes. Oh, SO many tunes. Like, LOADS of them. And they’re as kooky as Madness. Like Seymour, what they’ve also done is come out of a cocoon (Parva) but have bypassed ‘Leisure’ and ‘Modern Life Is Rubbish’ and headed straight in the direction of ‘Parklife’. Let’s hope ‘The Great Escape’ is not round the corner quite yet, cos Kaiser Chiefs are Blur. Rejoice!

7. Kasabian
A load of mystical dirge passing itself off as pop and ‘vibes’. The tendency to talk utter bollocks in interviews. The people who like them now realising that, come second album time, they were actually a bit of a joke and pretending they never liked them in the first place. Well done Kasabian, you are the new Kula Shaker.

8. The Libertines
They do bad drugs and openly talk about it. Their fanbase is quite scarily obsessed. Out of everybody mentioned in this article, except perhaps the Kaisers, their music (lest we forget about that) is the most reflective of British ‘70s punk, ‘80s indie and ‘90s plagiarism. The Libertines have an often romantic view of the country they live in (be it England or ‘Albion’) and, at the time when the world was obsessed with NYC, they opened the doors for a whole crop of new bands, be them good or shite. It’s mainly this rather than Bernard Butler producing the Libs’ best single which means, hooray, they are Suede.

9. Oceansize
A mighty live band eventually producing a debut album which can only be described as ‘disappointing’, Oceansize peddle overblown pomp rock and aren’t ashamed of it, which is why we like ‘em. This author can’t be the only one who’s noticed the remarkable similarity of ‘Catalyst’ to ‘Stay Young’ (intro at least), so bravo Oceansize, you are Ultrasound, except not as fat.

10. The Ordinary Boys
They connect with young mod-wannabes, successfully rip off The Jam and don’t appear to have any interest in pushing forward the boundaries of guitar music. But for every boy turned onto ‘Quadrophenia’ after tracing back The Ordinary Boys’ so-called roots, there is a cynical music fan who noticed the band’s swift change in image and got fed up of the street-team badgering. If there’s a country rock album pending then watch out – we may have the new Menswear.

11. The Others
Ugly men brought up on a Noelrock diet – musically and chemically. For all his nasal Gallagher snarling (which usually ends up sounding more like Campag Velocet’s Pete Voss), Dom Masters’ merry bunch of London scenesters come across as little more than one big cliché, musically and lyrically. All this laddish bravado makes them the new Northern Uproar with a more interesting PR angle, while their connection with the fans will eventually backfire like it did on Mansun. Patronising note to teens: please don’t put your life in the hands of a rock ‘n’ roll band.

12. Razorlight
Borrell’s big mouth and God complex has got him more column inches than he could possibly ever want/need. He is essentially a one-man show backed by session musicians. On first impressions they were nothing but more Television wannabes… that was until ‘Golden Touch’ came along and, well, touched a nerve within The British Record Buying Public. Despite the fact or maybe because of most of the lyrics on their/his album are utterly embarrassing, it seems there is no stopping Razorlight’s rapid ascent. Without thinking too hard, can you name Oasis’ current bassist? Can you name Razorlight’s current bassist? Razorlight are Oasis.

13. Selfish Cunt
Ooh, a little bit of controversy and a lot of hype. Selfish Clot is liked by nobody but music journalists – to which The Kids said “fuck off” and which makes him the new Terris.

14. Thee Unstrung
Extremely ladrock and mates with the ‘right’ people, Thee Unstrung are The Libertines with an Oasis fixation. They have an ear for a tune but are just really fucking annoying. Representing a scuffed trainer stomping on the face of POP forever, they are Cast.

15. Young Offenders Institute
A penchant for glam rock and fast tunes, plus a remarkably similar name - congratulations, you are, er, The Young Offenders.

Through all this though, do remember one thing: old Britpoppers don’t die, they just go on to manage bands or write books. One day you too could own a copy of Selfish Cunt’s ‘How I Managed To Stop Saying Naughty Words And Learned To Love Jesus (Aka Johnny Borrell)’.

DiScuss: Where are all the girls? Just who are the new Elastica and the new Me Me Me then (come on, The Chavs is too damn obvious)? Do you bemoan the loss of Melody Maker and Select? Who’s REALLY got the crack? Do you know the initial meetings for the DiS magazine took place in the Good Mixer? Do you realise a lot of this is tongue in cheek?



Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

haha, genius!

But surely The Tears are (quite literally) the new Suede.

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is it true they were originally called The Tears [In Steve Lamacq's Eyes]?

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

I know, I know - just how the hell are they getting away with it??!!

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

13. Selfish Cunt
Ooh, a little bit of controversy and a lot of hype. Selfish Clot is liked by nobody but music journalists – to which The Kids said “fuck off” and which makes him the new Terris.


.........ow.

and to think, i so wanted the others to be the new terris. alas, it wasn't to be. [unfortunately, too many fans to qualify. WHY?! i don't know.]

though really, terris came a bit after the whole britpop ex/im-plosion, didn't they... they were getting hyped and rejected in 1999 or 2000 weren't they..?

perhaps i'm being overly pedantic :p

xxx

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Surely Selfish C*nt are even worse than Terris?
Although, I can't think of a band before them that's been so bad.
So I guess they're the new, um, nothing whatsoever?
I saw Terris once, with Coldplay, on that tour that a million people say they saw Coldplay on, but only about 11 people actually did. Both bands were shite.

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i'm not sure. i'm pretty certain it was 1998 when i was in aberdeen we were talking to someone about putting the band on up there (before we'd heard them and before the hype, mind). anyway, yes, hush your pedanticism (if that's a word).

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I saw Terris and Coldplay in March 2000. I thought Terris were the future of rock and that Coldplay were dull as dishwater. At least I got the second bit right. To this day I think that Terris are the best live band I've ever seen. It's just a shame they were wankers.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

I totally understand and agree with most of the above, it's a good original article but who are also the new Sleeper, Placebo and Manics?


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the article could've gone on for a lot longer but i had to draw the line somewhere.....

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Snow White could be there Generation Terrorists era Manics.....

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

True, we need some new femme vocalists as foxy as Louise Werner and that bird from Echobelly.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

Hahaha - Thurman! Those were the days! I found some doodling I'd done on an old piece of paper back when I was 14ish the other day...just loads of band logos I'd clearly traced off the 7" singles, and Thurman were there right in the middle of the page in bright purple. Great days!

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On Newsnight the other evening there was a fellow called John Harris who was travelling the country looking for an MP he would like to vote for.

Can anyone confirm if it was the aforementioned Britpop scrawling John Harris?

BTW - The Britpop parallel is scary (and spot on). It highlights the fact that the boyos running the music industry on the ground are the ones who fancied Louise Wener and kissed their Graham Coxon posters back less than ten years ago.

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If he was a faux-manc and had bad mod hair, then yes, it was him. I had a row with him at In the City a few years back when he claimed the youth of today were no longer passionate about writing about and shouting about music.
Or maybe that was Simon Napier-Bell? Not sure. I was drunk and rather obnoxious.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

This article is spot on! British music has never been worse than it is at the moment. The Others especially need a slow and painful death. All the best new music is, as ever, coming from the US. New albums approach from Low, Magnolia Electric Co, Bonnie Prince Billy, Sleater-Kinney etc. They will all be great! British music is stuck in a cynical retro cycle - which means that terrible careerist bands like Razorlight, The Libertines and The Ordinary Boys are getting rich off the fact that you 'the kids' weren't alive to hear the original records that they are (badly) ripping off. And 'art' doesn't come into it - it's all about making money. Which is why British music (with a few exceptions) is so creatively stagnant. And there's a reason why we are experiencing a Britpop revival at the moment - all of these bands were about 15 years old in 1994 and grew up with Parklife and Definitely Maybe...

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It's all ok, this year sees the return of one the best British bands of the last 10 years. Magoo are back with a 2cd mini album at the end of next month and then a full length album around May.

Its not as bad as it seems as long as you dig beneath the surface

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

i think im the only person in the world who rates terris, although due to cancellations and stupid cameramen, i never saw them live properly. the first track on the album, 'white gold way' is truly amzing....

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you're not the only one; I also love that song

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yea but the fact that that song is so good means the rest of the album is nothing but a slow, painful comedown

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

This shows very well the whole danger of whacking things into genres... there's good and bad in anything - when people put something into a genre and then 'tastemakers' say that genre is dead, apparently it's all shit from then on. The Bluetones and Silver Sun were (and happily, are) great. Shed Seven and Sleeper weren't... for me at least.

It annoys me that it seems to take a brave person to say they still like those bands. But compare Silver Sun's last record "Disappear Here" to the last Oasis album and I think there's a fair case for saying that people can be very uncharitable.

The article is slightly misleading in a way, because it reads like you're being disparaging about S*M*A*S*H (who do nowt for me) and Silver Sun (who are my favourite band in the world, as you've probably worked out by now), when I know you like them both. I know that's not what you meant, but it could be read that way.

PS1. Does anyone remember that Terris's last major tour was a co-headline with Coldplay? Oh hang on, I've just noticed someone did. Sod it, I'll leave this in.
PS2. "The Last Party" was a great book, although they got it wrong about Silver Sun (sorry, off again) as well by saying we'd never hear of them again!

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I apologise for slightly compromising the point of my post above by constantly banging on about my favourite band, but there was a point in there too.

Re: Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

'It annoys me that it seems to take a brave person to say they still like those bands.'

Is that why The Bluetones aren't in your profile?

But erm seriously, I'm just glad to see anyone else who still likes them

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Sorry, mistake corrected!

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hehe yay!

The lack of any new material from their recent sets despite the length of time since the last album is slightly concerning, although to be honest it's a surprise that they've lasted as long as they have so far anyway

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New tour in April, perhaps then...

Re: Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

Yeah, I'm slightely dubious about the idea of presenting an article as a list when the items on the list:
(i) can't in any way be ordered 1, 2, 3 etc (unless, say, the Kaiser Chiefs are 4-Britpop-units-more Britpop than the Ordinary Boys)
(ii) don't really hang together anyway.

I mean, OK, all the bands are vaguely Britpop in some embarrassing way (from whence the humour arose, etc), but half of them are one's that Adie likes, and half of them she hates. Its just not much of a *list*. I mean are we gonna end up getting the sort of pisspoor filler you get in broadsheet supplements like "5 things you didn't know about anything", or even just "7 Things"?

In all other respects I enjoyed the article

Re: Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

there's 15 of them and it's in alphabetical order....

Re: Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

Yes, you know I like them but at the same time I know how to poke fun at even bands I like.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

I agree with Damian, apart from one minor point - I adored Sleeper, and I still do to this day.

Luckily, I don't need to ramble about how fabulous Silver Sun are, since it's already been done perfectly well.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

Silver Sun... *sigh* [doodles hearts on a scrap of paper]

Anyway, talking of tea, which you almost were, I came across a splendid almost entirely unmusicrelated website today: www.ingenious.org.uk/See - and by absent-mindedly searching for the word 'tea' (I was thirsty), it presented me with a whole host of really cool pictures of automatic tea pouring contraptions and old black and white ladies looking jolly. Maybe it was just me, but I was impressed.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

What fucking wank. I can safely say you are a fucking moron Adie. How dare you stick Oceansize in this article. A genuinely great band that could have the following and respect of a Mogwai in a few albums time. Just coz you don't get it, don't lump your lame journalism and opinion on the rest for a couple of fucking laughs. Go do that down the pub. Lucky they do it because they love music and not to appease tryhard intellectual cunts like yourself.

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I've got to stick up for Adie here actually. I don't agree with everything she's written above, but she's one of the most entertaining and least cynical writers on DiS, and the fact you disagree with a part of her article hardly merits that kind of venom.

It's an opinion piece. Disagree with it? Write your own. I do. Not on here, and I won't say where on this board because I'd cheapen my point if I made this a plug.

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"the following and respect of a Mogwai"

That'll be #58 with a bullet, then?

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Oceansize peddle overblown pomp rock and aren’t ashamed of it, which is why we like ‘em.

The truth, followed by a compliment - erm, problem here?

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R we that wank that we need to keep feeding this britpop myth constantly. Good british music existed and thrived long before some prick with a soundbite came along and named it BRITPOP. It always seems to be twentysomethings with no realisation of music before fucking madchester and the Oasis, Blur rivalry. Fuck off will you.

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Haha! I'm an Oceansize fan, actually...
Get sense of humour.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

A great article. Nobody else had the balls/inclination to write it. Although I don't agree with everything said, it's a fantastic read.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

should've added Arctic Monkeys as the new Pulp (the most obvious Brit-pop comparison cos of the brilliant Sheffield lyrics vibe). But, of course, DiS doesn't know about them yet do you (at least not until Neil does the review-wherever he is)?

I shall attempt to educate Ms Nunn on Arctic Monkeys tomorrow as I am playing lots of their songs at the G Spot festival (Bethnal Green Pleasure Unit from 2pm, £6 entry, proceeds to charity) where the lady in question is also a fellow DJ

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

Another reason British Sea Power are going to be the new Auteurs, because they're going to be criminally underrated by the masses, make three near-classic albums, the last one about killing and evil. Obviously.

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British Sea Power are getting a far better hearing than The Auteurs did. Mind you, in some ways Luke Haines brings that upon himself. I went to what was billed as a two-hour show once and he played for one hour, saying that he had written two hours on the tour ads so that he didn't have to have a support act. He then stopped one song and got the band to play the second half of a song they had already played, for no explained reason.

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Hmm, I was too young to see the Auteurs or hear of them first time round (I was 10 when After Murder Park was released), I've only gotten into them in the last year or so, but the albums seem to be of top draw, especially After Murder Park. Though I am amused by the story he got bored of his 1994 tour so he jumped off a wall, breaking both legs, so he could claim the insurance. heehee :)

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

I was trying to explain thsi point to some fo my friedns the other day. because I refuse to grow up a lot of my friends are between 3 and 5 years younger then me and din't get the whole of Britpop in its full and shabby glory. They also seem to be more excited about a lot more bands now.

Its not so much that the bands from the 2 eras have a lot directly in common other then being guitar bands who right pop songs Its more the way they are being marketed now seems scarily similar to the way bands were marketed to me when I was a wee lad. I hope the current scene doesn't go the same way as Britpop did and just degenerate into a drugs and booze orgy and lose all releveance as I think their are some great pop bands about at the minute (and some shit ones). It would be great if a the better ones were allowed to develop and reach thier full potential.

I half agree with the above poster who said the US is developing better bands at the moment (mentioned Low and S-k which I'm very excited about). I think the US has an incrtedible track record of creating great rock and alternative bands. I do think it makes shit pop-music though. I think the problem in the UK is the exact opposite, indeed the only band on the list above who are more then just a guitar pop band are BSP who sound very American.

If you deem pop music as lacking the worth of genuine alternative music then I can see how you might have a problem with th ecurrent Britsh scene. For my money guitar music is heading in differant directions on either side of the Atlantic and while I have a preference for our cousins across the oceans music I still like some of whats being created here.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

i wouldve called the libertines the new oasis... they clearly cornered the same tabloid yob element that oasis did

otherwise good call on most of the other stuff

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agreed. they have a lot in common:

alan mcgee
in-band squabbles
shite 'music'

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

"13. Selfish Cunt
Ooh, a little bit of controversy and a lot of hype. Selfish Clot is liked by nobody but music journalists – to which The Kids said “fuck off” and which makes him the new Terris."

I tried to get an interview for my fanzine and it was a dead end to be honest. I didnt want this to be, i actually like them and their album, but their attitude towards their fans is the same towards their haters ( from what i can see)

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: B

What about: jaguar, bigger the god, stereophonics, new electrics, pinko pinko, pimlico, weekenders, supernaturals, gorkys zygotic minci, Mantaray, Long Pigs, Tiger, Heavy Stereo, Mover, spearmint
catatonia, cecil, dodgy, grass-show, Swimmer, my life story, octopus, perfume, Rialto, Sea Fruit, Space , Twister, Strangelove, Straw, Plastiscene, Plastic Fantastic (Romo counts!)?

I've gotta admit, I think the britpop bands from the UK were the best exports since Space 1999.

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Perfume : that was a good band !
What became of them ?

And you forgot Elcka.

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

Art Brut? The new carter?
*snigger*
they wish!

xx

Oh, what a lovely day to drink some English tea: Britpop in 2005

Great to see that perfume got a mention, they had one of the best songwriters of any of the britpop bands, he`s now managing 10,000 things as well as still making music.